Dave and Earl, I guess we're arguing apples and oranges here. I approach the issue from a pure growth standpoint. All my adult life, I have focused on maximizing the growth of my assets, and I assume any young person reading this thread would want to do the same thing. If my IRA was of the traditional variety, there's no way I would be anywhere close to the 12% bracket when it came time to start RMDs. Taxes would eat me alive! Thus, I suppose I've "oversaved way more" than I need, but in my view, there's really no such thing.
Perhaps most people think of retirement as a time when they're making less than they did in their "earning" years. That idea is terrifying to me. I would never have retired if I thought my income or net worth would decrease as a result. Thirteen or so years into retirement (I finished my retirement process at age 51), my annual income is substantially more than any single year of my earnings ever was. That's why I'm partial to the Roth. I always planned on my income and assets growing nonstop for the rest of my life, and the Roth fits in with that scheme much better than a traditional IRA would.
I'm pretty sure each of my children will wind up in a similar financial position, which is why they've each had a Roth IRA since their early-teen years.
Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2025 10:33
From: DAVE GILMER
Subject: Year-End Tax Moves That Matter Most
@Earl,
Your professor is correct for most cases, and trust me when I say from my own survey only about half my CFP professors could explain why this is so. The one who could explain it easily was the lady teaching the topic of taxes, as IRA vs Roth is all about taxes. Take my own example, retired in 2012 at 60 and spending my traditional IRA money in 12% bracket and below. Most years, mid-single digit effect tax. While working contributed to Roth most years once it became available, but this tax cost was 25% to 33% marginal in those days for an income about the same as I now withdraw in retirement in the 12% bracket. Makes perfect sense in my case to spend IRA money at 12%, rather than Roth money that cost 25%+ to save. It will probably make more sense for the next generation to spend the Roth money in what will most likely be higher tax brackets for them after I am gone.
I have done my own research that suggests the same thing the Bogglehead Wikki supports and that is the if you can get money into the Roth at 12% marginal rate or below, you should probably do it. So, when you are young with not much salary, definitely do the Roth. How long you have the money in the Roth does not matter, just the tax difference between TIRA spending in retirement vs Roth contributions, Not RMDs, except to the extent you may have oversaved way more than you need and / or have a large taxable account that puts you in a higher tax bracket.
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DAVE GILMER
Original Message:
Sent: 12-29-2025 10:44
From: EARL KUSNIERZ
Subject: Year-End Tax Moves That Matter Most
Disagree. An associate of mine who is a finance professor, did a study that clearly shows that the more you put into the traditional IRA the more you ultimately will have compared to Roth. Take the tax break, there are few, if any, and use a traditional IRA. Would you rather pay taxes on a lot of money or less or no taxes on a smaller amount? As I tell my children, don't make any money and you will not have to worry about taxes.
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EARL KUSNIERZ
Original Message:
Sent: 12-26-2025 10:29
From: ROBERT ADAMS
Subject: Year-End Tax Moves That Matter Most
Young people take note! Invest in ROTH assets while you're young! If your 401k or other retirement plan has a Roth option, USE IT!
A Roth IRA is vastly superior to the traditional version because of its enhanced flexibility. The small tax deduction you will receive from contributing to a traditional IRA is not worth the aggravation caused by FORCED, TAXABLE distributions in later years.
I converted my traditional IRA to a Roth back in 1998, when the government allowed me to spread the associated taxes over four years, and every subsequent IRA contribution I made has been to my Roth. I do not regret missing out on the tiny tax deductions I would have received from contributing to a traditional IRA.
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Rob Adams
Original Message:
Sent: 12-25-2025 09:58
From: VICTOR STANKEVICH
Subject: Year-End Tax Moves That Matter Most
Merry Christmas! Still a few years from RMDs. Year end work is closing this year's plan to maximize income and minimize taxes. Optimize to hold taxable income to just at the next tax bracket's lower limit. In particular, harvesting long term capital gains at 0% and doing some Roth conversion each year to create sacred money for the long term.
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VICTOR STANKEVICH
Original Message:
Sent: 12-22-2025 11:27
From: Jenna Brashear
Subject: Year-End Tax Moves That Matter Most
Year-end tax planning can have a meaningful impact on your after-tax investment returns, yet it's often one of the most overlooked parts of portfolio management. The AAII 2025–2026 Tax Guide: Tax-Planning Strategies for Investors walks through practical steps investors can take before the calendar turns-from timing income and deductions to avoiding underpayment penalties and navigating AMT exposure.
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When AMT rules or safe-harbor requirements can override conventional tax advice
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Jenna Brashear
AAII Community Manager
Chicago, IL
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